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1 10th May 15:42
tom c.
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Looking to buy a used 2002 Ford Explorer and it seems like there are quite a
few available in my area (Central California) that are 4x4 instead of 4x2.
I really won't be using the 4x4 feature but can get a good deal on one. It
looks like it only gets about 1 less mile a gallon compared to a 4x2, so I'm
wondering about a couple of things.

Is there any drawbacks to owning a 4x4 when I don't use it?

Anything else I should be aware of when owning a 4x4?

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2 10th May 15:43
matt mead
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Interesting. Finally a person that admits he doesn't "need" a 4x4.
Congrats, you are one of the few. (And smarter than most!)

That being said, you are probably better off getting the 4x4 if you
will be selling it at some point in the future. While most folks who
buy Explorers don't need a 4x4, they think they do. Resale will be
higher on the 4x4. (Now if you can find a 2wd Explorer, maybe you
can get a real good price since not many folks are interested.......)

The 4x4 drivetrain should be exercised regularly to keep it
functioning. If you completely ignore it, it may not work if there
ever is an occassion to use it. (I speak from experience as I've got
a Super Duty with auto/manual hubs that no longer work in the auto
mode. Lack of use....) As you noted, mileage will be less. Service
will cost more too since you will have a front diff and transfer case
to service. More U-joints/CV joints to service and replace too.

That they don't handle like a sports car? Obvious to most I would
hope.

Good luck in your decision.

Matt
99 V-10 Super Duty, Super Cab 4x4
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3 10th May 21:52
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You're just moving more mass than you need to, so it's slightly
slower. Also, there's more moving parts that can break (which you
could possibly have removed...)

Most likely it has some form of all terrain tires instead of a more
street-appropriate tire, so traction may be affected in the rain
(which I hear gets really bad in CA)


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4 10th May 21:54
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As others have pointed out, lack of use is hard on the running gear.
Once the novelty of having a 4x4 has worn off, it can be tough to remember
to run that forward drivetrain every once in a while to keep things moving
up there.
I'd count on a minimum 10-15% hit on the gas mileage when going from 2
to 4 wheel drive, due to the extra weight you are hauling around.


Buy a grease-gun, and use it lots. Front end drive train components
(diff, brakes, transfer case, etc) can be costly and expensive to install,
so fix things as they happen to avoid having to pay for it all at once.
Remember that some 4x4's are hell on tires on the front end, and 4x4 sized
tires are often bigger and more expensive.
The most important thing to know about 4x4's is that they don't like
stopping when things get slippery. They'll take off like a dragster on
solid ice, but hitting the brakes afterwards induces a very special kind of
panic that almost every northern 4x4 owner could tell you at least one story
about. ; )
Having said all that, I had a 78 Bronco for 10 years and it was a lot of
fun. I kept costs down by doing the work myself, so the fuel was the only
negative issue I had with that truck.
4x4's are fun, if you've got the money go for it. If money is tight,
maybe look at a truck that's got a little less to go wrong with it.

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5 10th May 21:54
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Well written, Ken.

Thing is, I once owned a '75 F-100 with a rebuilt 390 in front of a four
speed and a 9 inch posi. That particular truck could go most places it's 4X4
brothers could. Even living in a small town in Montana, I didn't ever "Need"
a 4X4.

I currently live in the PACNW. We get an ice storm every year. The majority
of vehicles that end up in the ditch happen to be the SUV's and 4X4's.

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6 10th May 21:55
derrick dman hudson
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The thing is, _all_ vehicles, 4x4 or not, have the same braking
system. Many people don't realize the "4 wheel drive" only describes
the additional driving capability and that stopping is still the same.

Could this be a correlation to the above? Could it be that the
drivers thought they were invincible with their SUV or 4x4 and didn't
take necessary precautions?

Speaking of which, one time a few years ago my mom was driving home on
the highway in upstate New York in bad (snow) weather. Some compact
pickup came barrelling past her and then lost control. It bounced off
the one guard rail and slid across the road in front of her then
bounced off the other as she passed it and slid back across the road.

Even if you have a 4x4, use your head while driving :-).

-D (who recently bought an old 4x4 for the winter season)

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7 10th May 21:55
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Drive your 4x4 like it is 2WD. It will probably take longer to
stop than a 2WD because of the added weight. I drive my 4x4
carefully on slick roads so I won't get in trouble.

I see idiots driving way too fast with their 4x4's and
it is no surprise to see them stuck in the ditch. They
get over confident and get themselves stuck or in an
accident.
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8 10th May 21:55
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It's actually different since the front and rear wheels can't operate
independently.

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9 10th May 21:57
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Tom: Whether you need a 4x4 or not depends on where you drive. If you never
go off road or hit snow or mud, a 4x4 is a waste of money and costly to
operate and maintain. I live in the heart of the moutains of British
Columbia and criss/cross this province for work, and my 4x4 pickup is the
only way to get around when the roads are treacherous here. I use my truck
in 4x4 all the time in the snow and mud so I can justify the cost, extra
weight, and poor fuel mileage but if you're driving on the highways in sunny
California a 4x4 is nice to have but maybe not essential. My truck is fairly
new and hasn't cost me yet, but someday that tranny, transfer case, hubs and
CV joints will need service and it'll cost me big time. My brother in law
owns an automotive repair shop so I pay way less for repairs and tires than
someone off the street, but if I had to pay full price for my repairs I
think I'd rethink owning a 4x4.

A 4x4 isn't going to help you in the rain. I'll echo the other posts about
4x4 drivers that think they are invincible. We have a section of toll
highway near here called the Coquihalla and it is notorious for the ditch
being a parking lot for SUV's, especially people from Vancouver. People
from Vancouver drive SUV's because they are popular but run cheap tires
because they never see snow. They get on the Coq and ......you get the
picture. The Coquihalla is notorious for having weeks and months of glare
hardpack ice and the only thing that'll save you is driving carefully with a
good ice radial or light truck tire with snow tire rating. The other thing
about owning a 4x4 is that they handle completely differently than a rear or
front wheel drive car when both ends are locked together. Some of the other
readers will recall how freaky it is to be caught in a sideways drift in a
corner on snow when both ends are locked together. A 4x4 just plows mostly
straight ahead until you reduce your speed enough that it turns properly.
In a sideways drift, I'd take a rear or front wheel drive any day with some
good tires. Just something to be aware of......

'Nuff said.
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10 16th May 18:59
tom c.
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Looking to buy a used 2002 Ford Explorer and it seems like there are quite a
few available in my area (Central California) that are 4x4 instead of 4x2.
I really won't be using the 4x4 feature but can get a good deal on one. It
looks like it only gets about 1 less mile a gallon compared to a 4x2, so I'm
wondering about a couple of things.

Is there any drawbacks to owning a 4x4 when I don't use it?

Anything else I should be aware of when owning a 4x4?

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